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Swan40 dreamboat or nightmare? Ahoy, First I would like to thank regular contributors Lars, John, Mike and all others for their spot-on advice. The list of specifics to look for on a Swan40 is just what I was hoping to find. The discussions of fitting and maintaining systems unique to Swans are priceless. I will soon be looking at, Carpe Diem, the Swan40-015 listed on the association website located in Vancouver BC. The broker says the gear is 'as listed' and the owner of 20-years has been diligent. At $65K, is it too good to be true? Like many of you, I have high regard for S&S designs at sea and have lusted after a Swan since I saw a new one in 1971. When I was finally ready to buy a boat in 1980 I could only afford a 69-vintage S&S designed Tartan34 centerboarder. Thanks more to the design than my ability, I was able to sail Compadre over 60,000 blue water miles including a mostly solo voyage around the world via South Africa/Panama 1990-1996. I'm hoping to do a more leisurely paced circumnavigation on my next boat. Even though I've been boatless for awhile, I feel confident to be able to evaluate the systems common to all voyaging yachts. If anyone has personal knowledge of Carpe Diem, good or bad, (and it doesn't break any forum protocols) please let me know. This could be the boat I've been dreaming about, or the project boat out of my worst nightmare. Thank you very much for your consideration. Jak Ayres
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Hi Yak,
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Hi Yak, have you seen this? http://littlecunningplan.com/boat-reviews/1971-nautor-swan-40/ Best regards, Michael 47/013 VERA
Hi Michael, Thanks for the link. I had read that review early in my search but did not realize it was Carper Diem. Unfortunately they didn't mention some of the critical 'Lars-list' stuff like conditon of the steel frame at the mast base. I'm looking for a good seaboat so to me the pics of the interior were luxury. Especially compared to the spartan interior of my the S&S 69Tartan34 I lived on for 16-years. I reckon those quarter berths will be a good home at sea for toys like surf board, windsurfer/rig, and SUP. What I was surprised to see in the exterior pic was only one pair of primary winches in the cockpit. Thanks again for your assistance. Cheers, Jak |
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hi Jak,
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Hi Mike, Thank you for the encouraging words and agree 100% with your comments about these outstanding boats. I plan to view Carpe Diem next week. I'm already imagining pre-departure projects and wondering if any Swan 40 owners that cruise short handed or solo, have found it important to install another set of cockpit winches closer to the helm? I haven't sailed the boat yet so this might be a silly question. Perhaps it would mess up the dynamics of the cockpit? I recall using all four cockpit winches sailing downwind on my S&S34 and wishing I had another winch for the furling line when the jib is partly furled during knarly squalls. Again thanks heaps for your inspiration. Smooth Sailing, Jak |
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Hi Mike, Thank you for the encouraging words and agree 100% with your comments about these outstanding boats. I plan to view Carpe Diem next week. I'm already imagining pre-departure projects and wondering if any Swan 40 owners that cruise short handed or solo, have found it important to install another set of cockpit winches closer to the helm? I haven't sailed the boat yet so this might be a silly question. Perhaps it would mess up the dynamics of the cockpit? I recall using all four cockpit winches sailing downwind on my S&S34 and wishing I had another winch for the furling line when the jib is partly furled during knarly squalls. Again thanks heaps for your inspiration. Smooth Sailing, Jak Hi Jak,
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Ahoy, Just wanted to follow up and thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. Carpe Diem is a diamond in the rough that will require a longer list of offshore gear and upgrade projects than I can undertake. She would be well worth a look for someone with short term coastwise plans and deeper pockets. Cheers, Jak Ayres |
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Hi Jak,
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