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S&S Swan General - Head Door hardware
08 April 2016 - 16:01
#1
Join Date: 03 March 2007
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Head Door hardware

Hi all,

 

I am searching for the orginal head door handles for Stormsvale our 40... anybody have pictures and hopefully a source.  Ours is long gone...

Thanks is advance

 

Fair Winds 

 

Mike

 

08 April 2016 - 20:27
#2
Join Date: 29 January 2007
Posts: 799

Dear Mike,

could you post a picture?

i just changed all the door knobs onboard Vanessa, and after a long search, I found them with Nautor Spare Parts, they were the cheapest and exactly the original ones!

fair winds!

matteo (47/069 Vanessa)

12 April 2016 - 18:48
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Join Date: 17 March 2010
Posts: 48

Dear Matteo, 

 

could you give - or email - me a contact @ Nautor? I was actually thinking about re-chroming them again, did that already, years ago, but new sounds like a better option. 

 

Christian

Chinook // 431-003

12 April 2016 - 18:50
#4
Join Date: 29 January 2007
Posts: 799

Dear Christian

Nina or Tapani (spareparts@nautors-swan.com), they are both very kind and helpful

Fair winds!

matteo (47/069 Vanessa)

12 April 2016 - 20:12
#5
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Mille grazie, Matteo! 

 

Christian

Chinook // 431-003

14 April 2016 - 06:46
#6
Join Date: 03 March 2007
Posts: 197

Hi Matteo

 

Thanks for this info!!!  I am contacting nautor spare parts now and will send before and after pics..

By the way I met the previous owners of Vanessa in the Kiel canal last year.  A very nice couple who loved Vanessa very much!!

Fair Winds

 

Mike

 

 

14 April 2016 - 07:11
#7
Join Date: 29 January 2007
Posts: 799

Dear MIke,

thanks a lot!

Fair winds

matteo (47/069 Vanessa)

15 April 2016 - 18:38
#8
Join Date: 15 April 2011
Posts: 377

Hi Mike,

Please ask about the head hinges as well.  Mine are corroded and it would certainly be a lot easier to buy new.

 

Thank you,

 

Chris

Mabel's Casse Tete  43/003

19 April 2016 - 11:51
#9
Join Date: 03 March 2007
Posts: 197

Hi Chris,

 

I placed an order with Tapani (spareparts@nautors-swan.com) last week.  He responded to my email in minutes!!!  I suggest you just email him.  It will be quicker and less confusing than me getting involved.  Glad my hinges are OK!!!  Good luck with yours

 

Fair WInds 

 

Mike

 

20 April 2016 - 18:06
#10
Join Date: 15 April 2011
Posts: 377

Thank you, Mike!

21 June 2020 - 14:30
#11
Join Date: 27 January 2011
Posts: 120

So finally this winter it was time to replace the door knobs. It is in theory possible to  rechrome the old ones, and I think a previous owner has done that, judging from some wire holes I found, but rechroming is more expensive than buying new ones. I approached Nautor per Matteos's recommendation and bought three new ones there, unfortunately they only have ones with a locking mechanism left in silver (both variants still available in brass look). I accepted this as a compromise, but will advise my crew (the family) to not use the locks. I read about one case where a crew member locked himself into the head, and was only liberated hours later (his friends did not hear him knocking in a strong wind situation).

Removing the old ones required enlarging a hole, removing a brass bushing, using a chisel to force the locking mechanism out of the front, and finally pincers to pull out the locking mechanism completely.

The new ones from Nautor are from kwikset. The box says: kwikset Lockset, 400B 26 23/4, Belair Entry, 14962, 2 3/4" LATCH. They are from 1995, but in perfect shape. 14962 is the Nautor order number. 

The Belair have almost the same diameter as the original ones, maybe 1mm less, which is not visible. Fitting them requires drilling new holes. As visible on the photo, the new ones have a front plate the original ones do not have. I used a portable wood milling machine to cut a two-level recess. Overall the result is excellent, but the original one was a bit more elegant due to the lack of a front plate.

If you embark on this it is probably worth spending some time on kwikset.com or look for other door hardware providers. After all, the kind of door hardware we have is common in US houses and RVs. Our 411 doors are 28mm thick, latch is 2 3/4", diameter of the rosette is 69mm. It looks like it is still possible to get Belair knobs from ebay, in addition to Nautor. I do not see any brand/model indication on the original knobs.

Christian 411/028 IF

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