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Mast corrosion Swan 47/59 Hello, We are replacing our rigging and have taken the mast of. The yard has warned us that there is little corrosion at the bottom of the mast. He is proposing three solutions to be discussed: do notthing, cut 2cm of the mast and option1: put a plate 2cm thick below the mast, option 2 introduce in the mast an aluminium protection with rivets. Anybody with experience in this matter? Ludovic |
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I had a similar issue about 15 years ago with the mast on my Swan 41. I think I went for your 3rd option which was to slieve the bottom of the mast which seemed to work very well. It was done for me by Proctor masts (now defunct) who had a mobile service unit who did a couple of other jobs on the mast and boom at the same time in the Hamble boatyard.
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This is the way the mast of my 411 was fixed 7 years ago: your 3rd solution. |
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Thank you to both of you, I think indeed that fitting a piece inside seems the best solution. In this case I beleive the best is not to cut the mast but probably just clean it very well and ad the piece inside. Ludovic |
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Dear Christophe, After some work this is how the bottom of the mast looks like. I would not fit a staineless steel piece in the mast as you will have even faster corrosion but an aluminium piece.
I cleaned my shoe mast and did two holes in the middle so that the water trapped inside the mast can leave. I even plan to rince with fresh water inside the mast at the end of holiday season. Did you check the keel bolts below the shoe mast? (see the post on this issue)
Ludovic
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Ludovic,
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Christophe, as already mentioned, I would strongly discourage adding stainless steel parts in contact with aluminum. Indeed it looks that your mast was already fixed and presently it does not need much intervention. |
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Thanks Daniel.
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Christophe, |
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Many thanks to Daniel and all for your valuable comment. As far as the bottom of the mast is concerned, we will take the existing paint and rust away, see how the aluminium is, once cleaned, and hopefully repaint it without more to be done. I still have a question on the piece of metal which lays underneath the shoe mast. I have attached some pictures which show rust. We will sand it and clean it but I am not sure this will be enough to do the trick. It seems that removing this piece of metal is quite a job. I was wondering if any one of you has had similar experience or has any good piece of advice for me. I have liaised with Nautor Spare parts to find out if they can still provide a replacement of this piece and am still awaiting their response. Best regards. Christophe ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Dear Swan lovers, As I started this post in 2012 I thought it would be nice to keep you updated of my observations. In 2012 we sanded our original mast and discovered the mast corrosion at the gooseneck and kicker stainless junctions plates. We cleaned, filled with specific material and painted the mast. The situation is showed on the two pictures. The idea was that if we could avoid contact between aluminium (the mast) and staineless steel we would be safe. Very quickly (one two years) we could see some corrosion bubles below the staineless steel plates and therefore we decided to have a new check of the rigging during the winter 2018. We were very suprised to see that corrosion had continued with a worsening of the situation. Ounce again we were advised to strongly isolate the two material and had a new painting of the mast. See next post for the following observations Ludovic from Rumtrader (swan 47)
situation winter 2011-2012 after sanding the mast Situation winter 2011-2012 after isolation and painting Situation winter 2018 |
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Cher Ludovic, |
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The work done in 2018 did not prevent corrosion to continue its destructive work. In winter 2023-24 we had a new look (see picture) and it becam clear that if I wanted to keep the mast a new strategy was needed. After discussing at the Swan boot at Dusseldorf and with some rigger I reached the conclusion that nothing can stop the corrosion between aluminium and staneless steel. It is even worse when there is an isolant between the two materials as electron exchange will even be more important. The best is to never paint the mast. I have indeed seen some original mast never painted that seems to have less problems. Unfortunatelly our mast was painted probably long before we bought her. With the boat yard we decided to replace the staineless steel by aluminium (see pictures). The thickness and the contact area were increased and special wearing rings were produced so that the staineless steel axis would not be in contact with aluminium. The plates were fixed by aluminium rivets. After one year I can only be positive on the solution, we will modify to Monel rivets this year. I feel more secure and when I walk to the mast it is a great satisfaction to see these two new items. Off course the original plates are here at home and will join the box of all original sparepart of our Swan. Fair wind to all of you. Ludovic form Rumtrader ![]() gooseneck plate ![]() gooseneck plate finished |
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